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All scripture quotations from the Authorized Bible, without apologies.  Placed accents mine.
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Mystery of the Two Wines
(or the Two Covenants)

No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new

Intro ...  Discerning the wine

We are not talking about sampling here:  Tasting.  Coveting.  Looking upon the wine when it is red.  Or sparkling.  Swishing and swashing.  Sipping and spitting ...  with style that is.  Being civilized, culturalized, mature, moderate human beings.  Distinguishing the quality of the vintage, with its seasoned content, and richness of texture.  Groping over a glass of processed liquid, containing modified poison.  A liquor for class, and socialites of distinction.  A modish mood altering drug.  Professionally packaged, labelled, and presented.  Sold as a beverage of measured affluence and respectability.  A picture of prestige ...

Ladies and Gentlemen, Seduced and Seducers, Saints and Aints!!! ...  please hear ye this (and this is not aimed at the lost by the way - but the apparent saved):  Booze of any type (whether the refined attractively presented variety, or back ally moonshine); at it's best ... a stumbling block!!  At it's worst ... a destructive substance!!  Is there any other way to look at it, as Bible believing Christians that is?  If we are deceived there is!  And deceive it does:

Pro. 21:1.  "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise."

What does one glass of wine say:  "go on ... another one wont hurt!!"

Then again ...  I could have a blind spot?  Or then again ...  maybe you have!?  Drinking tends to do that!

Is this the doctrine of devils I'm pushing?  Nope!  The kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking.  Meaning ...  a glass of wine is not going to damn you from entering heaven. Salvation is not a matter of what you eat or you don't eat.  Being a moderate drinker will not stop you from being saved.  Neither will the odd ciggy (if Charlie Spurgeon tickles you pink).  But it will hinder God's blessing.  Furthermore, drinking wine could be the first step into being deceived.  It will certainly be the next step.  It will certainly ruin your witness.  And it will certainly bring confusion to the unbelieving.  (Urrrrrp ! * # ! *... will it ... really!!??)

Again:  The alcoholic, booze, grog, plonk, firewater variety:  At it's best ...  a stumbling block!!  At it's worst ...  a destructive substance!!

Did you know that there is a similarity, even an allegory, between the two wines in the Bible, differentiating religion from the bona fide ...  the Old Covenant from the New Covenant in other words (where I have found that there is still many Christians around who do not realize there are two main covenants in the Bible).

Allow the mystery to begin and unfold!  Keep reading please:


First the natural:

An expose on Modern Wine
(and how it relates to the spiritual)

Let me do some explaining here:  It has always been a principle in the scriptures that the natural comes first which is followed by the spiritual.  Trouble is, and a real effective trick of the Devil ... when many of us come to Christ we are thrown right into trying to get-it-together in the spiritual first, without getting-it-together in the natural.  Then we blame our "old" friends for giving up on us, as they can't handle our conversion.  When we are actually blind to the fact they can spot a phoney a mile away, and don't want a bar of it, as they suddenly find their good friend has gone away onto another, unattainable plain, sitting on "cloud nine".  This is how subtle and deceiving religion is. We forget that Jesus took thirty years getting-it-together in the natural (and was He rejected by His friends and family at this stage?).  This is before Jesus was a teenager:

Luke 2:40.  "And the child grew (in the natural - physically, socially, mentally), and waxed strong in spirit (He was being established in the innerman - characterwise), filled with wisdom: (learning how to handle people and difficult situations) and the grace of God was upon him (and He was not making out to be anyone but learning to live and coexist with everyone)."

In becoming a teenager:  V. 52  "And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature (all round growth in the natural), and in favour with God and man (no one saw Him as odd or weird - but someone everyone wanted to be around)."

Now let's get it from the scripture in what I am trying to convey ...  first the natural, then the spiritual, as a principle right through scripture
(1 Cor. 15:46):

"Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual"
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As the Lord did with the parables and as the Lord did with the covenants ...  the Lord always deals in the natural first in order to understand the spiritual.  The natural is a metaphor of the spiritual in other words, as biblical truths in the natural are reflected in the spiritual.  For example:  First we had the physical temple then we had (or have) the spiritual temple.  First we had natural Israel of the flesh, then we had a spiritual people called-out and belonging to a spiritual Jerusalem.  First we had the inferior shadows and types under the Old Covenant, now we have the better and lasting real things in the spiritual ...  and so on!  Now let's relate this to the obvious mention of wine throughout scripture and see how it serves metaphorically (first physical wine as a symbol and example - then spiritual wine):

Why all the confusion with wine?

Firstly, there are a few things we need to clarify here:

Pre flood there is no mention of drunkenness.  Was it because, in the physical sense, there was nothing to get drunk on before this densely populated Old World was destroyed?

The reason there is no record of drunkenness before the Flood would be due to the pre flood era of the earth being a different world than what it is now.  This is because there were three vast amounts of water found in Genesis One ...  one being a hugh underground water system to balance temperature control and for natural irrigation purposes.  There was also a 'water covering' established on the earth (the ocean) and the other being locked in the firmament above (a water canopy in other words).  This water or vapour canopy which existed around the earth would have inhibited cosmic radiation from entering the earth's atmosphere, harming and damaging the life elements, unlike our world at present.  This was also the reason a person's life span lasted almost a 1,000 years as the earth was continually watered without the aid of wind and rain, being lush and teaming with abundant life, compared to the present (as mountain loads of fossil discoveries have proven).  A bit like what researchers have created with the Eden Project in Cornwall, England.  It is also the reason why the fermentation process of fruit juices would have been different, until this world was destroyed when the water canopy collapsed and the bowels of the earth spewed forth it's liquefied content (Gen. 6:11) causing great upheaval and major catastrophe everywhere.

Therefore, the vintage Noah and his family were akin to would've been the pure juice variety, whereas, after the Flood, man would have been subject to a far greater amount of alcohol content. Hence, two types of vine produce in the Bible ...  one being pure and the other having passed through a decaying process, which was responsible for corrupting the righteous man of God, Noah, at the beginning of this new world.

Cutting asunder

If anything on The Radical Pilgrim has caused much controversy, it has been on the subject of wine.  One reason has been due to our religious education.  There has been a general reluctance to let the sword of God's word cut asunder the root cause of the present mixture of the religious and the authentic in our lives, and in the Body in general.  If we could see clearly here a mystery hidden in the wisdom of God, to make wise the foolish in Christ, and foolish the wisdom of man, then our adversary "religion" (for what it is) would be exposed, and dealt a major blow.  Possibly it's biggest defeat to date.  But then again ...  we've always got our own little precious pet opinions to hang onto and doctrines of men we hold dear.

Secondly, the on going wine debate could be due to an existing bad habit from the past that may now be lying low in ones life, hidden in the midst of religious flurry, undetected, and therefore not dealt with.  As Isaiah  28:7 declares:  "they also have erred through wine"! 

How did they err?  My Bible clearly says through wine they erred, which clearly confirms Proverbs 20:1 that wine deceives!  These are two verses that are always ignored by the "Christians Can Booze" lobby, for some reason.

The third reason for the controversy of wine has been through a simple genuine misunderstanding in the use of words.   In this age of superficiality (possibly the most synthetic of all time) language has (particularly English) been devalued and cheapened, whereby words have lost their original meaning, or been added with another meaning, even to the point of being corrupted.

You see our Bible was given to us in it's complete unadulterated English form in the Seventeenth Century, when it's language had not been cheapened with shallow meanings.  If we take a passage of scripture to apply to our lives, we first need to be confident that each word means what it was meant back then (400 years ago), when the translators were penning them under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.  Actually, this is not a difficult task, as the Author has left us with relevant record today, if we are prepared to search out a matter, and let His word prove itself.

The comparison

Therefore, let's take a look at a few passages in the Bible f 'instance:

Deut.  23:2. "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD".

Is. 36:12.  ... "that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?"

James 2:3.   "And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing".

So here we have three random misconstrued words today, taken from the holy scriptures:

V.27.  "It is not good to eat much honey".

Why?  Because it makes one feel sick for a start ...  although honey is very good for you.  Too much sugar (usually the white processed stuff) can give headaches.  Long term, sugar can cause diabetes. We fed our cat on a diet of supermarket cat biscuits because that is all he wanted to eat (spiked with catnip?).  Result; his bladder crystallized and couldn't function.  After days of agony he spent another three at the vet after an operation to clean him out and to save his life.

What we (animals included) eat CAN corrupt the body.  If you don't believe this because it goes against your doctrine (or emotional grain) could you please do me a favour?  Drink four or five chocolate thick shakes a day for four or five years and see what happens?  One man did, and died, as his arteries corrupted and blocked, starving his heart (the organ that is) of vital oxygen.  If what I'm saying is not true then there would be no authority in the words of Paul as Philippians 3:19:

Therefore, what we eat or drink CAN corrupt the body.  And alcoholic beverage, as it is a sedative and a drug, goes further as it corrupts the mind, as "whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise", according to scripture.

Furthermore, what we take in CAN add fuel to the flames of sin (speaking of alcohol here), understanding the following is not through food but what is already in the heart ( 20-23):

"And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.  For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:  All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."

Only an unadulterated idiot would deny all these things can be fuelled by adding alcohol to beverages and consuming it.  To the degree that this happens, is dependant to the degree it is consumed and what's already in the person's heart.  Scripture is clear that adding these things to our lives can fuel the fires of sin which are already there to be triggered and made manifest.  This would no doubt take away the new heart of the believer.  Here it is:

Hosea 4:11.  "Whoredom (flirtation) and wine (alcohol) and new wine (juice beverage) take away the heart."

The Lord always detests a concoction ...  a mixture (which makes a clear metaphor of the spiritual).  Meaning ... even shandy consumption during carousing times can be deceptive.  Like a little leaven can leaven the whole lump.  The little bit of poison to get you going in other words.

Why does God detest a concoction?  Simply; because God will not share His glory with anyone else.  And secondly; God deplores the faith being compromised with the world and the way being tainted with a mixed message.  F'instance ...  "there are many paths to God, depending on your preference, or culture, upbringing, or what religion you have been born into."  All these excuses (or should I say fables) are just crazy notions and rantings before God and would be best not used on the day of judgement.  A concoction of  juice being mixed with alcohol is not only disapproved by scripture (because it takes away the heart - robs you away from God in other words), but is also used as a metaphor of how God hates a (spiritual) mixture ...  whoredom at best, and idolatry at worst!  The very reason old wine (the booze stuff) is used as a metaphor of religion (dead works and inferior ways of obtaining salvation) as new wine is used as a metaphor of eternal life (or new life in the Spirit).  Very simple!  Too simple that the clever, overly qualified, and those that celebrate "human" brilliance, miss the mark by an infinity of time.  Being not mindeful of "they that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine (a concoction)."

Conclusion:  God hates a mixture (a fruit salad of poison and pleasantries together) whether in the natural (which is metaphor of the spiritual anyway) or in the spiritual.  The reason ...  it takes away the heart.  It undermines or removes our pureness of heart towards the true things of God, in other words.
Ps.  89:14.  "Justice and judgement are the habitation of thy throne: mercy and truth shall go before thy face (can't escape these two)."

It's so easy to justify anything.  In this age we have become masters and experts of it.  It's been said that Sodom had no Bibles.  The old world only had one preacher, namely Noah.  Up until Jesus' day they had the law and the prophets.  Today, we have both the Old and the New Testaments, the Holy Book complete; along with the record of history.  And look where we are?  How we love justice, but how we loath judgement.  How it is now considered "inappropriate" to judge, to weigh things up, to make correction, to use absolutes, to call a spade a spade, to name things for what they are ... "murder", "adultery", "treason", "sin"!  Relying on justice without judgement breeds contempt, enflames politics and prejudice, by dividing communities instead of pursuing true reconciliation.  However, true reconciliation can only come through having true reconciliation with God first.  True satisfaction is only found here.

Religion doesn't satisfy ...  "But godliness with contentment is great gain" ...  when experienced together.

Because sincerity is not enough!  It must always be coupled with truth:

Jos.  24:14.  "Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth"

Meaning, being genuine is good, but it is not good enough.  It's what we do with Jesus (the scriptural Jesus that is) that counts.  He is the issue, and nothing else!

Many "churches" are sincere.  Many churchites are sincere.  Many New Agers are sincere.  Judas Iscariot was sincere.  He genuinely believed Jesus was wrong.  It's what he did with the truth that was to his detriment.  He even repented with remorse after betraying Jesus to the point of making retribution by returning the loot.  But in the end ...  what did he do with Jesus?  What did Pilate do with Jesus?  This is the issue!   What are they doing with Jesus which is called Christ?  Do they give Him the brush-off, or do they fall at His feet with tears and adoration?  Jesus is still as always the issue, as well as the answer, and the bulls eye.  The world doesn't want it, so it will keep missing the mark presenting a falsified balance.  This way man can pussyfoot around with issues that arn't issues as far as God is concerned, in order to avoid what God decrees.

Pr. 16:2.   "All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the LORD weigheth the spirits."

Folk would rather talk about, expound on, muse over, or be entertained by the scriptures, but they would never want to act of them and be changed.  That's religion in a nutshell!